Fuel Poverty kills Scots

Posted on 11 December 2014 by Scottish-Sceptic

Just back from the Scottish parliament which I attending with Lord Monckton where we attended something called SPREEE. Here we heard three of their advisers starting with WWF.
I repeat: starting with WWF! What on earth are they doing advising the Scottish parliament? Not on how to bread pandas or haggis, but on energy policy! And what were these advisers saying? They were insisting that climate would warm 6C (as a result of Monckton’s questions) and not one of them cared at all about the effects on the hard pressed consumer as not one mentioned the cost to people in Scotland or the harm being done until I got the last question in.
And to cap it all, it was snowing – so I got in the mention about “children won’t know what snow is”.
I couldn’t believe it when the answer came back “it’s cheaper than it would have been if we hadn’t done anything”. Putting up fuel bills by the renewable stealth tax in a country with massive fuel poverty is “cheaper”.
And then I happened to be on the same train as someone else who had gone to the Scottish parliament. They worked for a charity called Energy Action Scotland who deal with fuel poverty.
Apparently 900,000 Scots are in fuel poverty. That’s an utter disgrace. In a country with oil and coal, 900,000 cannot afford to adequately heat their homes.
And what is the Scottish parliament doing on this wintry day? Taling about the real problems facing Scots or the delusional beliefs of the greenblob? They were pandering to the greenblob without a care for the thing that directly impact Scots and kills many of them.

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19 Responses to Fuel Poverty kills Scots

  1. A C Osborn says:
    11 December 2014 at 16:51

    The SNP is just as bad as the rest of the UK politician and Salmond is worse than most where “green” is concerned.

  2. nzrobin says:
    11 December 2014 at 17:10

    It’s difficult to fathom whether this attitude is rooted in delusion or intention. It seems so many politicians around the world have incredibly misguided values on ‘environmental actions’ versus ‘people actions’. They no longer seem to care much for their people. Their whole value system seems to have been turned upside down. I wonder if the source of the derision starts back at the Club of Rome’s definition of the new enemy, ‘and the new enemy is us’.

  3. Scottish-Sceptic says:
    11 December 2014 at 17:43

    Thanks for the comments I really appreciate them. It is just outrageous that someone could sit there in the Scottish Parliament and talk about 6C warming, when even back at the height of this scam the IPCC were saying “up to 5.8C” and now we’ve had no warming in 18 years and sensitivity has had to be reduced, no academic is seriously talking about such high figures any longer.
    These people are extremists even within the alarmist community – yet they are the ones the Scottish parliament has in to advise them.

  4. rms says:
    11 December 2014 at 18:40

    How did you know of this event? Open to public?

    • Scottish-Sceptic says:
      11 December 2014 at 19:44

      rms, yes it is open to the public but you have to contact the organiser before hand and book a place as the committee room is limited in size.
      The format was three presentations and then one question from around 8 people. Very little discussion was allowed.

      • rms says:
        17 December 2014 at 14:29

        I’ve inquired about going to the next meeting. They replied today with three conditions. The 2nd and 3rd seem reasonable. I’m wondering, though about the 1st (and wondering why any conditions). Any insight?
        Quote:
        … if you are happy to sign up to the following?
        • By signing up to SPREEE, you are becoming a member of the group (details of which are published on the Scottish Parliament’s website)
        • Your contributions to group meetings may be recorded and made available online via the Scottish Parliament’s website.
        • Your details will be processed in accordance with the Data Protection Act, i.e. your details will not be passed on or used for any purpose other than notification of SPREEE meetings or notices

  5. John Smith says:
    11 December 2014 at 22:02

    Scottish
    enjoy your site, found you from CE
    did not know the snow thing came from the IPCC…wow
    appreciate the vids
    try to get friends to go to your site and watch “hide the decline”
    hope you don’t mind
    not much luck yet but soldering on
    BTW my mom’s side of the family was from Inverness
    shipped (or chased) to the Carolinas around 1750
    dang fascinating, this climate stuff
    thanks for the site

    • Scottish-Sceptic says:
      11 December 2014 at 22:17

      Thanks for coming by. Before deciding whether your Inverness side of the family were shipped or chased, it might be worth glancing at an essay I wrote for an archaeology course: http://scottishsceptic.co.uk/2014/01/16/the-truth-about-the-highland-clearances/
      Like much of what I do, I made the mistake of looking at the evidence of population and trying to find specific examples of “horror”. And as a result I fundamentally changed my view as the evidence doesn’t support the “narrative” of clearances.
      In a way its very like climate – academia (or the popular portrayal) seems to be at odds with the evidence.

      • John Smith says:
        13 December 2014 at 01:11

        wow…you have a paper on this!
        all I know on this I got from watching the BBC Neil Oliver series
        Oliver…right?
        excited to read it
        this origin was not known to me until recent years and I’m not one to take such genealogy stories too seriously
        … just that the highland pipes put me into a trance, elbow pipes not
        🙂
        thanks

  6. Scott says:
    12 December 2014 at 15:02

    On the surface, being green and being able to bring “green jobs” is a better narrative and gets more votes than doesnt care about the environment and is in the pocket of big oil. This is the perception to most voters and we know that often perception is reality.

    • Scottish-Sceptic says:
      12 December 2014 at 16:16

      It’ not only galling having people with very cushy public-sector jobs telling me I’m in the pay of big-oil (I’ve had no pay for six years), but it’s even worse when I find that the labour party who you’d expect to have the interests of those in fuel poverty don’t really care about them until their crocodile tears in the party political broadcasts.

      • rms says:
        12 December 2014 at 16:22

        Its my experience that those in the green “blob” wither in public or NGO sector, seems to think everyone is in the pay of “big-oil”. Like you and others, I know that just not true. I do wonder, though, who is paying green “blob” people because they clearly think one has to be paid off to have a view. They live in a world I do not recognise.

      • Scottish-Sceptic says:
        12 December 2014 at 16:27

        We live in a world where we consume all our lives promoted by TV programs about house buying/selling on the BBC and then people feel guilty for this “sin” because of environmental programs on the BBC and then they try to absolve themselves of this “sin” by buying indulgences aka joining greenspin.
        And as the richer you are, the more people seem to aspire to this idyllic country life, and so the more green they want to me – presumably there are some very very rich people who have very very bad consciences about the way they got so rich.

      • nzrobin says:
        12 December 2014 at 23:22

        A bad conscience? More like a seared conscience!

    • Snowleopard says:
      13 December 2014 at 18:23

      Interestingly enough, big oil had a major part in starting this nonsense:
      https://seeker401.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/university-of-east-anglia-cru-unit-major-researcher-for-the-last-four-ipcc-reports-wasis-funded-by-multi-national-companies-opec-countries-nuclear-groups-and-big-oil/
      Due to a recent computer crash i don’t have the other links handy, but a thorough search will find that “big oil” provided major funding to establish at least two USA university climate units. Also the Rockefeller and Rothschild foundations (big oil money) are major supporters of green outfits that push CAGW, said funding appears proportional to the amount of group focus on CAGW

  7. manicbeancounter says:
    13 December 2014 at 01:09

    Assume for just one moment that the WWF are right – without huge global emissions reductions there will be 6C of warming this century, with all the prophesied catastrophic consequences. A quick check of global emissions figures (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/GCP/) will show that two-thirds of the growth in emissions over the last 20 years has come from China and India. They are still catching up on the emissions and living standards the rich countries. They, along with other emerging economies, will do nothing to curb their economic growth. So future generations in Scotland will be poorer because of falsely trying to save the planet AND will be confronted with practically all the harm of the warming.
    If the WWF and others had properly thought through the issues, the biggest priority would to accurately predicting the harms of global warming, and putting cost-effective measures in place to help adaptation.

  8. John Smith says:
    13 December 2014 at 02:05

    Scottish
    damned interesting
    when I made that off hand comment about my alleged Scots ancestors
    I had no idea
    don’t know about the UK
    but victim identity politics is in full fashion here in US
    and you”re trouncing on my best chance to be fashionable
    gosh darn it!
    I will say, my parents would often use the word “quare”
    which embarrassed me because I thought they were mispronouncing queer
    in hillbilly
    then I happened across an article in Smithsonian Magazine about
    “guare” saying it was in fact an old highland word surviving in rural Carolina
    as I recall there is an entry on the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill historical website claiming 145,000 Scots arrived in NC in mid 18th c
    astonishing large number I thought when I read it
    hence my alleged connection
    dang, and I live a mile away from a giant statue of Wallace

    • John Smith says:
      13 December 2014 at 02:10

      oops… off thread
      should have placed comment at end your post on Clearance

    • Scottish-Sceptic says:
      13 December 2014 at 12:00

      The impression I got doing the essay was that Highland society was actually quite pleasant and perhaps the reasons changes stemming from the agricultural revolution took longer to get to the Highlands was that it was just a nicer place to live.
      However where it did suffer was that it didn’t have the coal or iron that is present in the central belt and e.g. where I live there is perhaps the longest tunnel at the time in Scotland (800m) and that was built in 1710 probably by blasting as part of land improvement and supplying water to a lint mill some 40 year before the Jacobite revolution.
      So, in a sense the Jacobite revolution was a forerunner of the “climate wars” – between egalitarian/parliamentarian (early) industrialists and romantic monarchical “countryfiles”.

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