Toward a new theory of ice-ages XIV (Putting it all together)

In this final article I try to tie together what I know about the ice-age cycles – and perhaps as relevant, what I do not know. Continue reading

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Results of online survey of participants of the climate debate conducted early 2014

Before Xmas I started publishing the survey results from last year, but unfortunately Xmas got in the way. So, I was intending publishing the whole report as a booklet but then I worked out a way to put it on wordpress in one go. So here is the report:-

Original Questions

For reference here are the original questions

Introduction

In Early 2014 following an article “Sceptics Versus Academics” Mike Haseler & the Scottish Climate & Energy Forum (SCEF) conducted an on line survey of the participants of the online climate debate.
With only around 100 responses expected, the survey was intended to get qualitative information from a low sample for which a simple spreadsheet would be adequate. As it turned out over 5000 surveys were completed.
We knew we had problems when the spreadsheet intended to analyse the results  refused to open the data download” said Mike Haseler then Chair of SCEF. There is a huge amount that can and should be teased out of this data.
So we approached both the UK and Scottish government for help to complete the analysis of the survey and publish the results. Despite regularly making false statements about us sceptics, neither government were interested in the facts.
SCEF also approached the few academics who had showed themselves to be impartial and not part of the regular attacks against climate sceptics but none could help.
A year later, with no sign of the necessary funding to do a proper statistical analysis Mike Haseler feels that is is time to release the raw report that as is.
Please note this report uses the full dataset and e.g. it has not been possible to remove a couple of dozen “test” responses. However the number is small enough not to change the main results. Continue reading

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Toward a new theory of ice-ages XIII (How cycles are triggered + upper threshold)

Following some very helpful comments to previous articles I am outlining the trigger mechanism in more detail and I want to go back to look at the reasons why we might have a relatively stable inter-glacial temperature.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers
  8. How CO2 could control climate
  9. Drying of climate
  10. 5million years of cycles
  11. Hadley Cells
  12. The Haseler Gap

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Fig 13.1


The reason I’m raising this again, is because I have not addressed the issue of why the climate might have started to go through ice-age cycles. Above, is the figure showing the progression of global temperature over the last 5million years. What is immediately obvious to me, is that the start of the “41kyr cycle” occurs coincident with the time the upper limit of the global temperature appears to dip below a threshold which is almost never exceeded once the climate is operating in this ice-age cycle.
I have not so far explained why this cycle should have started at this point. But first I would like to explain in more detail why we see the change from ~40k to ~100k year long cycles.
As has been mentioned in several previous articles, these cycles are coincident with changes in the Milankovitch cycle (at 65N). However, the Milankovitch cycle on its own is far too small to cause the ~8C warming we see between the glacial and inter-glacial part of the current ice-age.
Fig

Fig 13.2 Model of exponential crustal cooling (blue) and simplified model of Milankovitch cycle (red)

Model

The model I am proposing is that after the warming as the world enters the inter-glacial, the world then slowly loses the heat as it penetrates the crust and is lost to space so that the crustal temperature tends to follow an exponential decline as showing in figure 13.2.
In addition the insolation (sunshine) onto the earth changes as a result of orbital changes in a regular pattern. I have simulated this pattern by combining a sin waves of periods 40,000 years and 100,000 years.
As stated earlier in Global warming and earthquakes, as the world cools the crust contracts in size and oceanic material is extruded. This process will continue until the crust begins to warm, it then expands and this initiates subduction, various emissions and catastrophic warming.
To show how this process is triggered by the Milankovitch cycle I have created a simple model combining the above exponential cooling with the simulated Milankovitch cycle to show how various scales of cycle and phases of the Cycle can result in a variety of cycle lengths.

4C cooling amplitude

Fig 13.3 Cooling starting from 4C (blue) & differential  x100(red)


The above graph shows the modelled global cooling curve (blue) which is the combination of a exponential cooling curve from 4C and a simplified simulated Milankovitch cycle. Below in red is the differential (scaled x100). The cooling curve falls rapidly so that by 40,000 years after the cooling commenced, the rise in the Milankovitch curve is sufficient to overcome the rate of cooling so that we see warming (at some critical point in the crust) which then precipitates a new ice-age cycle.

8C cooling amplitude

Fig 13.4

Fig 13.4 Cooling starting from 8C (blue) & differential x100(red)


Above is a new curve showing cooling from 8C. This time the rate of cooling at the 40k Milankovitch peak is too great to overcome the faster rate of cooling and it is not until the 80k peak that the Milankovitch curve can overcome the rate of cooling and so trigger a new period of catastrophic warming.

8C cooling amplitude (change phase relationship between 40k and 100k)

Fig13.5 Cooling starting from 8C (blue) & differential x100(red)
This time with a changed phase relationship between 40k and 100k in simple simulated Milankovitch cycle


Above is a new curve showing cooling from 8C but this time with a changed phase relationship between the 40k and 100k cycle. This simulates the same rate of cooling but at a later/earlier cycle when the change in time has resulted in a change in phase relationship between the 40k and 100k cycles of the simple simulated Milankovitch cycle. This time, because the Milankovitch cycle is smaller at 80k, the rate of cooling at both  40k & 80k is greater than the simulated Milankovitch cycle peak and it is not until the 120k peak that the Milankovitch curve can overcome the rate of cooling and so trigger a new period of catastrophic warming.

Explanation of change from random to 40k to 100k

This model explains why the ice-age cycle changes from 40k to approximately 100k as the size of the cooling cycle increases. This is because when the size of the cycle increase, the rate of cooling is sufficient to increase the the cycle delay from ~40k to around 80-120k years.
It also explain why the cycle is eratic in length and e.g. in fig 10.6 we see what appears to be a repeated change from a series of cycles followed by an irregular one and then another series. This is likely because the various components of the Milankovitch cycle cause the scale of the induced warming to vary so that on some cycles the Milankovitch warming is not sufficient to trigger catastrophic warming.
A likely explanation for the lack of regular cycles before million years is that the overall cooling cycle was too small to prevent Milankovitch or any other natural variation from triggering a new phase of warming. So, almost any natural variation would trigger a new round so causing the “cycle” to be random in nature.

What is causing the change in scale of cooling?

Central to this theory is the concept that the global temperature is triggered into a warming phase and then slowly cools again. The scale of this change appears to be the difference between a lower temperature which is slowly cooling for some reason and an upper temperature which appears to be constant.
Thus is appears that the the climate (before being triggered into warming) is subject to some form of cooling force which is driving the world toward ever colder temperature and presumably at some point in the future, the size of the cooling curve will be so large as to result in even longer ice-age cycles of around 160k years.
However, as I have not looked beyond 5million years, I would not like to say why this is happening. However others have mentioned various possibilities such as narrowing of particular seaways by plate movements, mountain building or even plant evolution resulting is plant species that dramatically reduce overall CO2 levels.

Upper threshold

The upper threshold appears to be an absolute temperature threshold and not relative to the lower temperature limit of the cycle. This suggests that this temperature represents some fundamental temperature change which occurs at this one temperature. Speculatively possible mechanisms are:

  • Vegetative growth at a specific latitude
    Plant growth is very dependent of ambient temperature. However this temperature varies strongly with latitude. However, if for some reason plant growth at one particular latitude were crucial to global climate and its presence or absence strongly affected global temperature, then it could create an absolute temperature theshold
  • Ice melt at a specific latitude
    Likewise, if melting ice at a specific latitude strongly influenced climate then this could also act as an absolute temperature threshold. Possible example are sea ice in narrow straights which might effectively prevent ocean currents from passing these key points.
  • A.N.Other key temperature threshold.
    For example, whilst it’s just a theoretical example, it is just conceivable that the 3/6 to 1/2 Hadley cell structure tend to occur at a particular temperature.

Evidence which seems to suggest the source comes in various forms

  • First, there is the simple fact that we only have around 4 ice-age cycles in the Vostok core. This suggests that there was a massive melting event that finished around 420,000 years ago.
  • Next is the apparent loss of ice layers around 240,000 years ago (see figure 1.2 in introduction). This suggests that the cycle is still very close to melting the ice layers at Vostok.
  • Finally thanks to the comments so far received, the importance of ice in the “ICE-age” cycle has been highlighted. So whether ice is a cause or symptom, it does seem to play, or is a proxy for something with plays, a pivotal role in some way in the progression of the ice-age cycle.

Alternative and/or complementary Proposal for the upper “Buffer”

Therefore, in the absence of any other plausible or obvious absolute threshold that would cause something specific to happen at the temperature where the ice sheets are melting, I am therefore forced to suggest that the powerful negative feedback / loss of positive feedback is like to be the melting ice-sheets themselves.
Two possibilities spring to mind:

  1. That the melting ice-sheets directly absorb the heat.
  2. That is some way the melting of ice, perhaps particularly sea ice, creates a strong form of negative feedback which effectively prevents further warming.

However, what is worrying with scenario (2) is that the upper threshold is not a firm fixed threshold because quite clearly the climate has very often been above this threshold with no obvious limit coming into play.
So, it appears this threshold is itself one that can and does disappear from the system. As such the most likely explanation appears to be (1) above. That physical melting of the ice-sheets absorb heat.

Proposed mechanism

I have so far proposed that cloud formation was a potential mechanism for stopping further warming. However, whilst this may slow done warming, there is no obvious reason why it should create an absolute threshold temperature. Therefore I propose that it only slows down warming, not halts it.
Instead I now propose that the thermal expansion of the crust leads to increased plant growth and consequently to a more humid world. This more humid world has higher levels of water vapour which as a potent greenhouse gas (for more potent than CO2) effectively causes run-away warming.
However, as the warming progresses, these positive feedback effects diminish, but more importantly, the melting of the ice-sheets directly absorb masses of heat energy. This effectively prevents further warming, slowing down the crust expansion and eventually stabilising the crust so that subduction processes massively reduce and with it emissions of water vapour, CO2, SO2, dust and various other things with affect the climate both directly and indirectly.
Thus the melting of the  massive ice-sheets which are over a mile thick, which form as far south as Britain, effectively halt further warming sufficiently long to halt crustal expansion. Then various processes start to lock up CO2. Plant growth decreases, the release of water vapour drops and the crust starts to contract reducing still further atmospheric emissions from volcanoes (many of which are plant nutrients).
This then allows the build up of ice-sheets, the globe cools, eventually the amount of CO2 is so low that natural processes cannot effectively lock up the CO2 and reducing atmospheric levels. We reach another near-equilibrium state with very modest cooling, where a small amount of additional warming from the Milankovitch cycle (over a period of time) can start to warm the crust, cause expansion and precipitate us into another warming event into the inter-glacial.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers
  8. How CO2 could control climate
  9. Drying of climate
  10. 5million years of cycles
  11. Hadley Cells
  12. The Haseler Gap
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Toward a new theory of ice-ages XII (The Haseler Gap)

This is a repeat of the article in which I describe how temperature and CO2 are not correlated around 16,000 years after the inter-glacial peak.
For those not familiar with my sense of humour the “Haseler Gap” also refers to the lack of understanding and disappointment with conventional climate research that I felt when I wrote the article.


See also

Fig 12.1 Global temperature (top red) and CO2 (bottom blue) from Vostok Ice cores aligned and averaged.


To the right I have my (hurriedly prepared) graph taken from the Vostok ice cores, showing temperature at the top and CO2 at the bottom shown over roughly 100,000 years of the typical (later) ice-age cycles. The problem is that whilst all show a very sharp rise in temperature very closely coinciding with a rise in CO2, temperature after hitting a peak clearly then has a rapid cooling phase which does not occur with CO2. So in the 16,000 years after the peak, we effectively progress more and more into an ice-age (and no, I’ve not worked out whether we are in the phase).
However that temperature drop occurs without an associated drop in CO2. But if CO2 were driving the temperature, then we must see a drop in CO2 associated with the drop in temperature. So, the lack of change in CO2 at a time temperature drops massively (in each of the last four cycles) is unequivocal proof that CO2 “did not do it”. CO2 was not driving the ice-age cycle. Continue reading

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Valentine greeting

To the one I love

Plants Love CO2
So no excuses for sitting on the couch
watching TV or reading a book,

get that heart racing as

Plants love CO2

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Toward a new theory of ice-ages XI (Hadley Cells)

In the previous introduction and article on cycles I covered ground that will be familiar to many. In this article I want to look at Hadley cells and start to consider other ways the planet might operate.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers
  8. How CO2 could control climate
  9. Drying of climate
  10. 5million years of cycles

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Fig. 20 Vostok ice core showing CO2 (blue), proxy temperature (red), CH4 (green), %O18 (upper brown), Insolation (lower brown)


Most people reading this, whatever their view on climate, will be familiar with the concept of an ice-age and most will understand how the Vostok ice cores (fig 20 right) shows details of the last four cooler periods with their warmer interglacials.
However, where we may start to find differences is looking within this Vostok data where CO2 and temperature appear to rise and fall together and whether this is cause and effect and which if either is the cause. However, few will disagree that whilst CO2 might on its own cause modest heating, this in no way explains the change from ice-age to interglacial. So, to fit this square peg of a very small impact of CO2 into the round hole of massive temperature change a variety of forms of massive positive feedback mechanisms have been postulated to explain how a relative small change in CO2 might just have caused enough temperature change to produce the above graphs. But is this the dog waggling the dog? Could it be that CO2 changes in response to temperature. But if change of CO2 during the ice-ages were responsible for the change in temerpature, then this certainly would suggest (at face value) that rising CO2 today would have a much greater effect.
And now:-

I’m now going to present a theory that in large part supports that view

[As I detailed in my previous article “Now I’m a CO2 denier“, I failed to fulfil this intention because CO2 is not correlated with temperature around 16,000 years after the inter-glacial peak.] Continue reading

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Toward a new theory of ice-ages X (5million years of cycles)

So far we have discussed ice-age cycles as if there is one and only one type of cycle of around 100k years. In this article I want to put flesh onto that skeleton and look at the variety of cycles and non-cycles that can be found.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers
  8. How CO2 could control climate
  9. Drying of climate

Benthic

Like the ice-core estimates of ancient temperatures, the ratio of Oxygen 16/18 in Benthic provides another way to estimate temperature, but over a much longer period and below is a typical result:-

Five_Myr_Climate_Change

Fig 10.1


CO2 and Temperature as derived from Vostok ice core (shown with time going forwards).

CO2 and Temperature as derived from Vostok ice core (shown with time going forwards).


Continue reading

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Toward a new theory of ice-ages IX (Drying of climate)

After discussing how reducing CO2 could modulate H2O to produce a drier and therefore colder climate I want to review the evidence for that colder climate in the ice-age.

To recap

In the last article (How CO2 could control climate) I introduced the idea that we live in an effective CO2 desert geologically with unprecedentedly low levels of CO2. And how even a relatively small reduction in CO2 could dramatically affect plant life pushing plants away from the drier areas. This in turn would lead to a reduction in transevaporation from plants, a drying of the atmosphere a reduction in the necessary greenhouse warming effect of water vapour and a decrease in temperature again leading to less plant growth and less water. In effect, reducing CO2 might not on its own have the necessary greenhouse effect to alter the climate much, but its effect on plant growth and through in water vapour might.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers
  8. How CO2 could control climate

CO2 and water vapour feedback

In the 1950s whilst most people accepted that the world had had ice-ages it was difficult to discern any details except the scant information left by terminal moraine giving an indication of the greatest advance of the last ice sheets.
The in 1947, the nuclear chemist Harold Urey discovered a means to estimate ancient temperatures from the oxygen built into fossil sea shells. This relied on changed to the (O18/O16 )  taken up by the organism and then preserved in its shells. And as we have seen this can be used as a proxy thermometer.
Then a geology student Cesare Emiliani, working in Urey’s laboratory at the University of Chicago measured the oxygen isotopes in the microscopic fossilised shells of foraminifera, a kind of ocean plankton. These shells could be found in clay cores extracted from the sea bed. Moreover as they also contained carbon he was able to use Carbon 14 dating for the most recent layers from which he could estimate the rate of deposition. Together the C14 and O18/16 provided the first detailed estimate of temperature variations during the recent ice ages. Continue reading

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Toward a new theory of ice-ages VIII (How CO2 could control climate)

This article explores how changes in CO2 might be linked through plant growth to global water vapour and thus provide a potential indirect mechanism by which CO2 might influence climate.

To recap

So far I have introduced the concept of climate cycles and how positive feedbacks must be present in order to have the ice-age cycles. I have also shown that in interglacial periods either additional negative feedbacks come into play or the positive feedbacks disappear so that further warming is very hard.
In Global warming and earthquakes I introduced a mechanism with a delay sufficiently long to provide the timing mechanism creating the roughly 100,000 year ice-age cycle we see at present. In that article I suggested CO2 was released in great quantity, but I did not provide any means by which that could influence climate except the very small greenhouse effect of CO2.


See also:

  1. Introduction
  2. Criteria for Cycles
  3. Global warming and earthquakes
  4. Thermal crust expansion, decomposition and the Carbon cycle
  5. Overview of feedbacks
  6. Climate stability
  7. Hitting the buffers

CO2 and water vapour feedback

Continue reading

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Climategate II?

After Booker’s article in the telegraph: “The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever“, based on Paul Homewood’s work exposing what appears to be fraudulent changes made to S.American temperatures, things are certainly heating up. Continue reading

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