A bit of personal forward planning
As far as public interest is concerned, global warming peaked in 2007 (google trends). As far as academic (aka “scientific”) credibility is concerned it peaked in 2009 with climategate, not so much for the clearly dubious behaviour of those involved revealed in the emails, but because their behaviour was not only condoned by a massive cover up at the highest level of “science” took place to keep the global warming scam going – and their continued politicking and denial of mother nature and her pause has only driven the stake home.
But from a data point of view – the peak is odd. Based on long term cycles it is likely that global warming peak around 2010. That is to say, if we average over 30 years the maximum is likely to occur with an average from 1995- 2025. But, obviously, we don’t have that data yet, nor will we have it for some time – so that is still in the “hypothesis testing” stage. So we are stuck with the shorter records which appear to tell a very different story.
Because in the shorter yearly records the short-term el Nino spikes have a pronounced effect such that it is almost certain that the “peak” of global warming will occur in an El Nino year and so far the most likely contenders are 1998 and 2015/16. And based on current data 2016 is not matching up to the record of 1998 (wouldn’t it be ironic if the peak were 18 years ago – it’ll really make the assurances by the idiot academics look all the more ridiculous in the history books!).
So, now I trying to plan my year. I don’t want to have a lot of time available in the “muddle” of a El Nino when all we will get is moronic copy-n-paste commenters claiming the “pause is ended” just because its an El Nino year. Nor do I want to be tied up with other things at the very time the El Nino falls down the other side and we are wiping the smile off the face of the copy-n-paste alarmists.
So, I have a real personal interest in trying to work out or predict the end of this particular scam.
When will we know it is over?
Checking the data on the UAH graph, the earliest indicator would be around 1year of temperatures below “average” (pseudo 0C). Alternatively any single month below “=0.3” would be indicative of cooling and below “-0.4C” has only occurred before the “pause” … but hang on!!! … I’m thinking like a sceptic. Sure we’d need a whole year below 0C to start being convinced … but the poor alarmist are such sensitive souls!!! I’m sure even one month below 0C would have them quaking at the knees, throwing fits and throwing their rattles out of their pram.
Looking back at the graph, it appears that from the peak, it takes roughly a year for the global temperature to drop down.
Likely Future
Ok – here’s the likely scenario: at some point we should get our 2015/16 “peak” and we’ll know that has occurred with moderate confidence when temps drop 0.2-0.3 below the peak. By my rough estimates that is a 3-4month lagging indicator – and from that point onward until around a year after the peak there is (usually) a strong decline in temperatures. If I assume peak temperatures occur around March, that suggests June/July will be the start of “making hay” with a peak-global-warming-eco-nutter-totally-pissed-off-with-mother-nature-not-doing-what-she-is-told toward the end of 2016 and throughout 2017.
From 2017 to 2020 we’ll then get back to “natural variation” but likely continuing the “19,20,21,22 years of pause” with an increasing likelihood of someone shouting but it’s actually cooling …
Around a decade later than everyone else (2025?) – the academics will start saying they have “discovered” a “60 year cycle” – which somehow explains both the pause … they’ll award the idiot who “discovered” that a Nobel to claim it as “theirs” (it won’t be cycle – like pause is to hiaitus – it’ll be something more grandiose “modulation” – no that’s not long enough … it needs to sound “scientific” sound as if some 150 year old Latin teacher spat it out it needs to be very “anharmonious'”) … but I digress.
Whatever bullshit name they call it, it will be claimed that “when this is taken into account that we are seeing ‘unprecedented warming’.” Then around 2030 we’ll start to see warming again and the idiot academics will claim they have been vindicated and that this is finally “proof that private industry is ‘evil’ – because they are causing people to not get quite so cold in winter … or if they can afford the fuel … not getting anywhere near as cold as the eco-nutters (with high paid public sector jobs) would like them to get”.
Note: by 2030 – will the university sector still have anything like the same authority it once had? With foreign Universities effectively taking over (largely because our Universities are now so filled with PC idiocy that they will not be able to compete) it may no longer matter what US and particularly UK university staff think.
Contingency futures
Even with unusual warming, it is unlikely that we’d to get anything like the idiotic predictions of the eco-nutters in the IPCC (0.6C since 1996). Warming or cooling of around 0.5C in 30 years occurs 0-2 times a century. Warming like the 1690-1730 warming of 2C – has only occurred once in 3.5 centuries in CET. Thus, it is likely in the next century we will see warming or cooling of around 0.5C in 30 years and there is around a 30% chance of warming or cooling of up to 2C (over 40 years) in the next century.
Unusual cooling: it is quite possible we could see an “unusual” cooling event (i.e. it looks unusual in short-run data). For the sake of argument, lets assume this is 5 years of colder than I would expect. This will certainly cool the ardour of the global warming idiots. However based on previous behaviour, this will merely turn to “cooling is just another thing we expect from man-made global warming”. And just as the same people pushed the global cooling scare as pushed the global warming scare, so the same evil machine pushing global warming will be simply turned into a global cooling scam.
However, I suspect that although it will be very easy for academics to convince themselves they have “found” something, I can’t see the public falling yet again for another global-bullshit scam in the same way they did. However, the (once) mainstream press will no doubt use anything global-bullshit scam to go overboard in a vane attempt to boost their dwindling sales – but at least that might focus on real problems like winter deaths.
Unusual warming: just as unusual cooling is quite usual (yes the irony is intended), so unusual warming is also quite likely. Unfortunately, with the fraudulent believers inventing surface “temperature”, unless their is a sane republican in the US who has a general clear out of the eco-nutters it is almost certain they will just “get rid of the pause”, like they “got rid of the medieval warm period” and “got rid of the 1940s warm period” and “got rid of the 1970s global cooling scare”.
So, a long-term warming event would require a huge effort to prevent the “lunatics finally not only taking over the asylum – but knocking down the asylum with themselves and a lot of other people in it”.
It’s all down to the public’s common sense
The big question: at what point will the public have the sense to turf out the lunatics running the asylum? But I forget – most of the public are already treating global warming fanatics like deranged lunatics! The problem isn’t the public – who are rightfully sceptical of all academia tells us – it’s the deranged lunatic politicians who keep lapping up their insanity. And the problem (in the UK) is that there’s been effectively no choice (although will UKIP change that?)
So, here I must leave the subject because if there’s one thing I cannot predict – it is when deranged politicians will realise they’ve been conned.
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For a discussion of the timing of the coming cooling see
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-epistemology-of-climate-forecasting.html
The millennial peak in solar activity was about 1991, (See Fig 3 )
Because of the thermal inertia of the oceans there its a delay in the corresponding temperature peak which varies according to the metric used. The RSS peak was about 2003 – a 12 year delay.
(fig 4).The delay until the NH ice volume minimum is 23 years (+/- 2 solar cycles)
Here is a quote from the link above
“Ava asks – the blue line is almost flat. – When will we know for sure that we are on the down slope of the thousand year cycle and heading towards another Little Ice Age.
Grandpa says- I’m glad to see that you have developed an early interest in Epistemology. Remember ,I mentioned the 60 year cycle, well, the data shows that the temperature peak in 2003 was close to a peak in both that cycle and the 1000 year cycle. If we are now entering the downslope of the 1000 year cycle then the next peak in the 60 year cycle at about 2063 should be lower than the 2003 peak and the next 60 year peak after that at about 2123 should be lower again, so, by that time ,if the peak is lower, we will be pretty sure that we are on our way to the next little ice age.
That is a long time to wait, but we will get some useful clues a long time before that. Look again at the red curve in Fig 3 – you can see that from the beginning of 2007 to the end of 2009 solar activity dropped to the lowest it has been for a long time. Remember the 12 year delay between the 1991 solar activity peak and the 2003 temperature trend break. , if there is a similar delay in the response to lower solar activity , earth should see a cold spell from 2019 to 2021 when you will be in Middle School.
It should also be noticeably cooler at the coolest part of the 60 year cycle – halfway through the present 60 year cycle at about 2033.
We can watch for these things to happen but meanwhile keep in mind that the overall cyclic trends can be disturbed for a time in some years by the El Nino weather patterns in the Pacific and the associated high temperatures that we see in for example 1998 and 2010 (fig 2) and that we might see before the end of this year- 2015.”
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The problem with 1/f noise is that it is far too easy to see cycles which aren’t there. But this 60 year cycle was almost big enough pass through as a “hit” as being something “abnormal”. On that basis along I’d just ignore it – but because there is also credible research pointing to solar induced cooling, the combination seems to cross the threshold to form the basis of a prediction.
But on solar – whereas I’d say the research is far more credible than CO2 (80% confidence versus perhaps 10%), I’m still sceptical of its value in predicting climate as like CO2, it is all too easy to keep manipulating the facts to fit the data (but not obviously like CO2 “research” which manipulates the data to fit the theory).
Here is a quote from my blog at
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com/2014/07/climate-forecasting-methods-and-cooling.html
“NOTE!! The connection between solar “activity” and climate is poorly understood and highly controversial. Solar “activity” encompasses changes in solar magnetic field strength, IMF, CRF, TSI, EUV, solar wind density and velocity, CMEs, proton events etc. The idea of using the neutron count and the 10Be record as the most useful proxy for changing solar activity and temperature forecasting is agnostic as to the physical mechanisms involved.
Having said that, however, it is reasonable to suggest that the three main solar activity related climate drivers are:
a) the changing GCR flux – via the changes in cloud cover and natural aerosols (optical depth)
b) the changing EUV radiation – top down effects via the Ozone layer
c) the changing TSI – especially on millennial and centennial scales.
The effect on climate of the combination of these solar drivers will vary non-linearly depending on the particular phases of the eccentricity, obliquity and precession orbital cycles at any particular time.
Of particular interest is whether the perihelion of the precession falls in the northern or southern summer at times of higher or lower obliquity.”
However it is not necessary ( in fact it is literally impossible) to calculate from the bottom up from first principals what the temperature will be.
In reality if you know where earth is with regard to the natural cycles, notably the millennial and 60 year cycles, climate forecasting is reasonably simple and straight forward.
If we can just do a little better than pure chance, we’ll be doing better than the climate alarmists. Whether that is any use to anyone is a good question – but having forecasts that are no better than wishful thinking (and biased wishful thinking at that) is worse than useless.
For a simplified explanation of where we are see
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-epistemology-of-climate-forecasting.html
Fig 3 shows clearly the millennial warming peak at about 1991. The correlative RSS warming peak is about 2003.(Fig 4) The previous warming peak was about 985 (Fig 2) A reasonable working hypothesis is that the general trends from 985 – 2003 will more less repeat from 2003 – 3021 with another Maunder type Minimum about 2650. This is more than wishful thinking it is plain common sense.
Sorry should have been solar activity peak at 1991
Mike, you don’t seem to be understanding the very simplest requirement of science. What validates or invalidates a theory is not some elaborate argument or your view as to how it sounds, but whether or not it fits the data.
You have singularly failed to show that the current models don’t fit the data. Indeed, you haven’t provided even one bit of evidence to show that even the sign is wrong.
I don’t even suggest my person al forward planning amounts to science.
Did you recognize that I just copied something you said in that other thread and changed the name from James to Mike?
Yes, but it was like going to a Rugby match and complaining about a handball. You didn’t seem to understand that there are different standards that apply to different activities in life.
If it is alright for you to bring your own standards into a scientific discussion then you can’t fault the global warmers for doing the same. I fault both you and them.