Evidence global air pressure varies? – Is this a wheel falling off the caterpillar?

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The main prediction from the caterpillar theory of plate tectonics is that we should see changes in volcanic emissions resulting in changes to the atmosphere such as increasing CO2 & pressure.
The Caterpillar theory is that thermal expansion during the ice-age leads to one plate of the crust being pushed under another. It then cools pulling out from the mid ocean ridges and so tends to move like some caterpillars.
There is strong evidence that the ice-age cycles affect mid oceanic ridge formation and the rise of CO2 as the crust warms is also supportive evidence for this theory (although hardly conclusive as we also expect outgassing).
In my last couple of posts (overviewcalculations), I speculated that global pressure had been changing significantly in recent geological times and that possibly if the air pressure increased by 30% that would be enough on its own to cause the 8C warming we see coming out of an ice age.

How can we prove a change in pressure?

I thought about looking for a correlation with some physiological aspect of bird – because surely they need “thick” air more than any other creature? All I found was that birds fly well above Everest and that there does not appear to be much of a limit in terms of air pressure. That in itself may be evidence that the earth’s pressure has been lower and we now have birds adapted for much lower air pressure – but that is just speculation.
I thought about possible geological signatures from the change in boiling point of water from 100C to around 90C. But there are few places where we see natural boiling water exposed to the air today – so there’s a very slim chance useful changes have been recorded.
Another possibility is that dissolved gas content will change in water. I’ve looked for research into high altitude water to see whether there are any changes which might be recorded in some way – but so far I’ve not found anything.

The evidence I need ??

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More wheels falling off: UK plans to get rid of "gullibles" investment bank

I can’t turn around these days without finding more bad news for the alarmists. This time, the UK government are ditching the so called “Green investment bank” which was another way to pump public money into the pockets of carbon sharks.
This sums it up:

critics have called plans for a sale “reckless”, and said that the move calls into question the government’s commitment to a low carbon economy. (link)

This is all part of the same common sense dismantling of the CO2 scam. Hopefully some gullible-green idiots like the Guardian will put all their money into the bank. That way when it goes belly up they will lose the lot, they will no longer have the massive AUTOMOBILE funded nest egg that allows them live in a cloud cuckoo land. Instead they will have to start writing what the public want to read rather than what they want the public to believe.

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Calculation of pressure change need to induce ice-age cycle

In my previous post I suggested that the addition of gases to the atmosphere from volcanic activity could have increased the atmospheric pressure and that would have changed  global temperature giving us the current warm interglacial.
Today I thought it was worth putting some figures on that (thanks to Will Janoschka for the question that prompted it). And here it is: PressureGlobTempI don’t claim to be doing anything other than using the approximation given by Niklov and Zeller 

Ts/Tgb = exp(.233Ps^0.0651 + 0.00154Ps^.385)

Where Ts is surface temperature (C), Tgb is earth’s “grey body temperature” which I treat just as a constant as given in the paper (154.3C), and Ps is surface pressure of around 100,000 pascals.

This suggests that in the ice ages, the 8C lower temperature could be explained by a 30% drop in pressure. That is equivalent today of an altitude rise of 3200m. For us living in Scotland where our highest mountain (Ben Nevis) is around 1300m that sounds high. Continue reading

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The evolution of the present CO2 desert

After yesterday’s article on the carboniferous desert (350-250million years ago), I’ve added a section to the article suggesting why we had the second drop in CO2 from around 150million years ago to the current “2nd CO2 desert”.
See: http://scottishsceptic.uk/2015/06/25/lignin-and-the-carboniferous-co2-drop/

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Is Scotland experiencing a cooling of the climate?

This May I started checking our beech hedge for signs of it coming into leaf because I had noticed that much of the hedge came out of bud within a day and had recorded the date last year as May 5th. So, I started watching and waiting and a good 12 days later I reached the same stage. At the time I just took it as an example of how variable the climate was.
But last week a journalist friend spontaneously asked me about the colder weather as they had recently run an article saying it was set to be the coldest June in 40 years. I must admit I was stumped to answer. I mentioned that some people were talking about sun spots and this possibly causing cooling, but that was something longer term. However, June continued cold and now it’s well past the summer solstice and we still have not turned off our central heating.
So, I thought I’d try to see if there’s a general explanation for the colder weather.
The best answer to the question I found was this:

Up till now and really since the beginning of 2015, there’s been a fight between the Azores high and Iceland low. The weather has always been that drier and more settled across the South of the UK while more changeable in the North.” (link) Continue reading

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Lignin and the carboniferous CO2 drop

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If one looks at the graph of CO2 over the last 600million years there is a noticeable drop in CO2 levels in the carboniferous – a period when the world experienced it’s first “CO2 desert” with very low levels of CO2.
One possible cause of this massive drop in CO2 and the subsequent deposit of carboniferous rocks is based on the idea that plants developed with a new component in them called Lignin. Lignins are important in the formation of cell walls, especially in wood and bark, because they lend rigidity and do not rot easily.
Lignin is a complex polymer which is indigestible by animals and indeed many bacteria and fungi. Animals can’t digest it because they lack any enzymes that can degrade this complex polymer. But some fungi (such as the Dryad’s saddle) and bacteria can biodegrade lignin using so-called ligninases.
The idea is that some time at the beginning of the carboniferous, plants evolved to produce Lignin. This protected them from fungi, bacteria and animals. Indeed, the theory goes that because they were so well protected even after death, they did not decompose releasing back the CO2 in the atmosphere. Thus plants grew and died but did not decompose so absorbing all available CO2 leaving us in the first “CO2 desert”.
However, it is then postulated that around 100million years later bacteria and/or fungi evolved the ability to produce lignisase to decompose lignin and this then allowed them to release carbon from dead plants back into the atmosphere so raising the CO2 level.

The Evolution of the second CO2 desert (150millions ago to present)

PetterT asked a very good question which is why did we get the second CO2 desert ending up in the low CO2 levels of the present era. I had wondered that myself as I wrote the article, and whilst I had a few hunches it was just speculation. But as I wrote my reply I found that one possibility matches the dates so well that I decided to include it in the article.
A very good question … Fundamentally the level of CO2 is a balance between emissions and absorptions. So there are two possible groups of explanations:

  1. Emissions of CO2 are declining – and fundamentally that means geological processes – so that probably means the earth’s volcanic emissions are reducing. That is not impossible, but it doesn’t seem likely that we would suddenly get a steep decline in the last 150 million years**. Another geological process is the decline in erosion and then decomposition of carbon rich rocks.
  2. The other scenario is that something has changed in the way CO2 is being absorbed. And here there are two ways this could drag down the level:

2a) More Locked up: That the CO2 is being locked up by some process. If it were geological – it should have occurred relatively steadily over the entire geological record**. So a more likely explanation appears to be that we’ve seen some kind of biological evolution which is locking up carbon in some way. I don’t know of any such process and given the amount of carbon it seems incredible that so much carbon could be locked up somewhere without us finding it and trying to utilise it. So, it would have to be something like peat or mud shales or some recent geological formations rich in carbon. Perhaps something in the deep oceans?

2b) More “suck” from plants: That a group of plants evolved that could “hoover up” the atmosphere even at very low concentrations. In effect “CO2 desert” plants have evolved specially to thrive at very low levels of CO2. So, it may not be that any more CO2 is being locked up, it is just that these plants grow until there is virtually no CO2 present in the atmosphere.

**If geological processes are involved, then it would need to be something that “happened” and then continued. I’m not suggesting it, but perhaps if something resulted from two plates colliding then this “thing” might explain the second CO2 desert.
A strong candidate for this would be any group of plants that came to be dominant in the last 150 million years. And so the strongest candidate are the flowering plants or angiosperms for which the earliest fossil evidence (Archaefructus liaoningensis) dates to just 125 million years ago, but reading this they say their research indicates that the origin of the crown group of extant angiosperms is Early to Middle Jurassic (179-158 Myr), and the origin of eudicots is resolved as Late Jurassic to mid Cretaceous (147-131 Myr).
Angiosperms are so common it’s easier to mention the commons plants that are not in this group: algae, mosses, conifers, liverworts, lichen(+), ferns. So, everything we commonly think of as a “plant” with the exception of conifers and ferns. It’s also worth mentioning that conifers evolved 300million years in the middle of the first CO2 desert – so they are probably adapted to CO2 desert conditions!
(+) I included lichen as it is so common – but it’s a combination of an algae and fungus so as far as CO2 absorption is concerned it fits with the Algae).
This suggests to me that the evolution of lignin, led to the first CO2 desert encouraging the evolution of the ancestors of flowering plants (and conifers). These started gaining a foothold as they were better adapted to the CO2 desert conditions. Then when bioforms started producing ligninases, we get a relative CO2 flood. But the flowering plants (& conifers) went on to out compete almost all other plant forms except in specialised environmental niches and slowly over the next 150 million years they take over and gradually suck the atmosphere dry of CO2.

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Josh Cartoon: I see no Caterpillar

I’ve been struggling to get facebook to show Josh’s wonderful cartoon which I published in More Caterpillars: The Leaky Atmosphere Hypothesis – is global pressure a proxy for global temperature? Hope this works!

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More Caterpillars: The Leaky Atmosphere Hypothesis – is global pressure a proxy for global temperature?

Most of this article was written before Roger Tallbloke pointed out that the suggestion the earth’s global temperature is controlled by the earth’s pressure was suggested by Nikolov & Zeller before 2011 (but on longer timescales). This means key point is toward the end where I suggest the caterpillar theory and pressure variations can be combined into a unified explanation of the ice  age cycle. However, whilst the hypothesis linking global temperature and pressure is less important here, the fact it was independently suggested makes it more the more worth considering.

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Graph of CO2 levels and temperature of the earth over the last 600million years showing that temperature has varied significantly (and not correlated with CO2)


Until recently there was the concept of a “normal” temperature for the earth. Indeed, the whole global warming & cooling cooling scares stem from the view that the earth had departed from this “normal” temperature. However, the climate record just does not support this idea. Whether we look from day to day from year to year from century to century, millennium to millennium or one ice-age cycle to another, we see that the world naturally changes its temperature. Continue reading

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Threat of court action must bring this scam crashing down!

Most public scares tend to come to public attention amid a mass of publicity but die in obscurity. And this is how politicians like their scares, they like to take the credit of ordering anti-viral drugs when there’s a flu epidemic, they like to take the credit of a massive publicity program for the “millennium bug”, but they do not ever want to have any scrutiny after the event when the public would find out that none of their action was necessary (but to be fair, the public are as much to blame but the politicians who take the credit should also take the blame).

But global warming is different.

The politicians gullibly passed laws to force themselves to act on this scare. Now as the scare falls apart and the politicians know the public will not stomach the massive cost of these harmful policies, those making money from these policies will not let it die quietly:
Dutch government ordered to cut carbon emissions in landmark ruling
This is really really good news for sceptics like. Because if this scam had been allowed to die a natural death, we sceptics could have been sitting around for as much as a decade without government ever admitting we were right whilst we kept paying money to the wind scamsters.

But, apparently they are just too greedy for their own good.

Instead of just letting this scam die its natural death – they want to bring to a head with legal action. BRING IT ON!!  This now means governments rather than being “passive sceptics” gently easing themselves out of their stupid commitments to commit economic suicide, will now have no choice but to join us and become “active sceptics”.
And unless we suddenly see a “road to Damascus” conversion by the environmentalists academics who run climate “science”, the only way for them to stop their economically suicidal policies and electoral suicide, is to pass the blame to someone else and start criminal prosecutions against those who created the scam.

They were just too greedy!

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Big fall in sun's output would slow global warming in Europe, US -study shows

OSLO, June 23 (Reuters) – A fall in the sun’s heat output to levels last felt 300 years ago would slow temperature rises in the eastern United States and Europe,

This just shows we sceptics were right. It was the sun what done it and not CO2. We in Scotland are having the coldest June in 40 years and this just proves that the alarmists are sun spot deniers.
Sorry for the sarcasm! I saw the Guardian article Weak sun could offset some global warming in Europe and US – study and couldn’t help poking fun at them, both for the way they report global warming, and the way they no doubt think we sceptics will jump on the sun spot bandwagon and start yapping on about impending doom from sunspots in the same way as they go on constantly about CO2.
However, even the Guardian are printing:

the sun’s cooling effect would only reduce … temperature … in northern Europe and the eastern US by 0.4-0.8C.

As that is very similar to my estimated impact of CO2 (less than 1C), we should be thankful that we’ve got some man-made warming!!
 

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