Dead Parrot Talks: "more or less inevitable … a failure"

I found this article on http://www.ecoequity.org but as honest admissions of “failure” may quickly disappear, I’ve copy and pasted it here.

Still Losing, After All these Years

Since we’re coming up on the Big Paris Meeting, and since it’s more or less inevitable that it’s going to be widely judged to be a failure, it’s worth noting that the DivestInvest movement is also failing to deliver the big breakthrough that we need. This, at least, according to a piece called Fossil fuel industry still winning the investment war that Alex Kirby just published over at Climate News Network.

What’s the problem. Just the impacable force of fossil capitalism as usual. The economics of renewables are ever better, but as far as the investment industry is concerned, that’s no reason to scale back of fossil investment, not even fossil investment that is unlikely to pay off at anything like the expected rate. If at all.

I don’t bring this up to be snarky. The fact is that nothing is working . . . yet. But DivestInvest is a key piece of the puzzle, even if it’s not the silver bullet that its boosters imagined.

There isn’t going to be any silver bullet. Not unless you count the overarching ethos of the movement. To wit: we’re in this together, and we better start acting like it.

To be honest I feel sorry for guys like this. As the blurb says: “EcoEquity is a small, activist think tank”. Which usually means some enthusiastic well intentioned people who are being used by BIG ENVIRONMENT to line their own pockets.
Usually they don’t earn much money from the scam and so they are as much victims of this climate scam as we sceptics.
This is why we’ve got to go all out to stop this scam now … because everyone, including these people have something better to do than waste in on this stupid scare which even those lining their own pockets know is coming to an end.

So who will rid me of this climate scam?

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5 Responses to Dead Parrot Talks: "more or less inevitable … a failure"

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  2. TinyCO2 says:

    I’m not sure that these people know what they’re waiting for. It’s like talks about world peace. If it happens it won’t be because of anything said at the peace talks. At the Kyoto talks countries like the UK naively thought that reducing CO2 was just a matter of investing in the right industries. The dash for ga and the commisioning of the last nuclear power staton made it look do-able. The US promised nothing but discovered the joys of cheap, fracked gas and CO2 fell as if planned.
    However, no matter what soft headed politicians promise, they can’t make CO2 fall past a certain point without an engineering breakthrough. A breakthough that is a long way from guaranteed, no matter how much money they throw at the issue. The UK might phase out coal and squeeze a few more tonnes per person out of the equation but soon the figures will creep up again. A mass exit of industry would make the next step and it would merely be displacing the CO2. Only dismantling the consumerism would dent emissions and which world leader is going to go do that?
    However none of them has the guts to admit that until there is a viable alternative to fossil fuels or all countries are seriously convinced about CAGW then these meetings are a waste of time. Look how long they continue those peace talks even when neither side is prepared to budge. Ministers can go to climate talks alost indefinitely. There’s no pressure to stop.

  3. Scottish-Sceptic says:

    It is far worse than that. The gullibles/academics have totally utterly failed to either predict climate or provide any useful action. They are about as pathetic as anyone can get.
    They were arrogant about their own abilities – and proved incapable. They ran a vitreolic campaign of hate against real scientists, denied the data, pushed voodoo non-science and were generally used by BIG BUSINESS to line their own pockets.
    I think many of them will be very lucky if they don’t find themselves in court for fraud, dereliction of duty and whatever that crime is about “shouting fire in a cinema”.
    And when academics next say “why don’t the public trust science” – the answer will be obvoius – it’s because of the wholesale corrupt practices revealed in this money making scam.

  4. TinyCO2 says:

    I’d like to think that was true but those sorts of alarmists are teflon coated. They always have the excuse of saying they have a duty to warn of potential hazards, even if they don’t materialise. AGW has got years to go as a just in case scare. Annoyingly this will be a big El Nino and will probably result in a heat bump. The Arctic ice is not looking good although an early refreeze is possible. Those things will give the thing at least another five years bluster. Only a more urgent, tangible crisis would kill the orgy of catastrophism the December meeting will spawn.
    Not that warmists will get their way. Not even the UK will commit economic suicide, which is what significant action on CO2 would result in. So yes, Paris will be a failure but it won’t be a win for sceptics either.
    The UK has had a period of genuine CO2 reduction but it’s been bolstered by factors that can’t be duplicated. We’ve has some very mild winters, a massive recession and the flight of some of our heaviest energy users. If we get a period of growth and a bad winter those figures are going to be trashed. If we fail to replace our nuclear fleet the figures are going to start rising rapidly in the next ten years. Of course if we added in our imports and exports it would be doubtful we’ve reduced our CO2 by much at all. We also import electricity from Europe and it will be interesting to see if France decides to reduce its nuclear fleet and what effect that might have on our emissions.
    The CO2 obsession has lasted this long because CO2 reduction hasn’t been that hard so far. Things will begin to change from here. However don’t expect the AGW bandwagon to break down any time soon.

  5. Scottish-Sceptic says:

    As I was thinking about it yesterday, I realised that this whole scam comes down to abusing authority. You see it in the sexual predator behaviour of Pachauri, now in the EPA and you constantly see it in the arguments from authority used on line (where those in “authority” fabricate “research” simply to maintain themselve and line their own pockets).
    And like Pachauri and the EPA, what seems to be happening is that people within those same organisations are no longer accepting the abuse of power and authority.
    These predators no longer have the kudos they once had. The starry eyed interns are no longer swallowing their crap. The young are waking up to the way they are being abused for the gratification of those in power and as such the whole power base of these abusers is disappearing.
    And likewise those going to these climate talks are finally waking up to the fact that they are just a stage for politicians to trot along to and look “green” without actually doing anything at all. Again, the young gullible activists are just being used as a cheap way to get a few votes from other young gullible activists.
    In most senses we are really living through the era of the “Green” young, but not in “environmental” but in the sense of “Gullible – willing to stand in protest lines just to line the pockets of others”

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