Today I was posting a few comments online and I nearly got one annoying alarmist to agree to a 100:1 bet with him forking out the $100,000 – but apparently not.
I’m not naming the person as I really don’t want someone who cannot afford the wager to be forced into it. But clearly they quickly realised that it was a pretty awful bet, even for those believing in massive warming (they didn’t even notice there was an upper limit!!). However, I’m recounting the tale as it does prove how gullible these warmists are and how little understanding they have of how likely events are.
It started when I said something like: “the models do not work” or “if you predict warming and that predicted warming doesn’t happen then the model/theory is invalid and not science”. Well apparently the greenblob also work Saturdays, because one quite obnoxious individual just kept coming back with a whole lot of twaddle. In the past I’ve found that if I just keep to the point and asked them to show me that the global average surface temperature had warmed by at least the lowest prediction of the IPCC prediction they would eventually give up.
Of course, they were unable to give any dataset that had warmed by the 0.14C/decade warming from 2001 when that prediction was made. Usually even the most ardent eco-zealots realise that they’ve lost and give up, but this individual must be a novice born again believer who did not know when to stop.
Because when they came back with the 2025 forecast of the IPCC for warming between of between 0.4 to 1.1°C from 1990. Given this forecast was made in 2001 so a third of the prediction was certain backcasting, this was hardly a fair bet, but I checked HADCRUT4 and wow! The 2014 figure was just outside. So even this prediction with so much backcasting had failed. So I point this out expecting him to give up, but when he came back it twigged this alarmist might be so gullible there was a chance to make money from them. So, I asked them what odds they would put this happening as a bet with them personally. (I’m not betting with greenblob organisation who know that sooner or later they will lose a legal case and have probably set themselves up to prevent anyone getting at their money).
I suggested 1:10, 1:20 or 1:100 to encourage high odds, but in retrospect I should have gone higher as they quickly came back agreeing to the 1:100. In disbelief, I checked to make sure that they understood that by this I meant I would wager say $1000 and they would take this if they won, and they would wager $100,000 and I would take this if I won.
Strangely my posts then started disappearing as if they had been flagged. I imagine they wanted to end the conversation and hoped they could stop my reply. But to ensure that they had read that I was game, I posted a couple of additional ones saying that they should contact via my blog if they wished to take it up.
So far I’ve heard nothing.
Note: They posted anonymously and whilst I would be happy to bet with someone who can afford the money at those odds that the 2025 Hadcrut4 would be between 0.400 & 1.00 I’m not betting with someone who’s just been stupid – hence why I’m not naming them – because even the stupid need protecting from themselves.
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I tried making a similar bet with someone who I had thought was a friend after he posted something on “Deniers” online. His excuse for not taking up my bet was that I would just rubbish any data he found to back his claim. The alarmist zealot is a lot worse to experience in real life than anonymously.
Their views are so detached from reality that they truly have no idea that even the strongest alarmist academic would refuse the bet because even they know that statistically things can go against the trend.
My biggest concern is that someone might just have been stupid enough to take up the bet and that inevitably they wouldn’t be the brightest spark in the box, so a modest income and if they had a wife and children the bet would put them through 10 years of worry.
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I disagree. There is a positive ethical duty to part morons from their money.